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What's wrong with hte grandstands they have?
Why do the pits and paddock need replacing when there's nothing wrong with them.
There is already a science park there.
There is already testing facilities there.
A Hotel that close to a circuit is asking for trouble.
New homes is suicide.

have they gone mad? Why are they spending that much (which they haven't got) on something which by and large doesn't need any work? I really don't get it.

Well, Bernie seems to think it needs work, and he sees a lot of other world class tracks.....










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Yeah, but Bernie knows jack all about motorsport - he's a businessman.

Why? Because if nothing is done, Silverstone will no longer host an F1 race. It doesn't have the BTCC any more, so it would be running out of top series' to host.

I've been to a few F1 events (6 countries), and the accomodations for fans at Silverstone are 2nd class. I can't speak of the pits and paddock, but the race course is superb, and that's the only thing I really care about.

Hopefully this can secure the long-term future of the circuit. What would be great for the grass-roots of the sport is if there was a high-tech racing school developed there with the help of the top teams from F1, Rallying and BTCC to help develop the next generation of young drivers

But there is a racing school there already! the only one in the uk which actually has races as part of the course...

what you need to do to help the grass roots of the sport is to have cheaper circuit hire rates. unfortunatly with Silverstone spending so much on F1 this is unlikely to happen.

Here's a wild one - but could Silverstone not gain sponsorship from a company whereby the company actually sponsors the circuit and not the individual races that are held there? Or is this not a viable option?

So it would be renamed? Like 'Lowes Motor Speedway' (Charlotte) or 'The Mazda Raceway' (Laguna Seca)? Can just imagine something like 'The Barclays Circuit'... Of course, you could always get an aeroplane builder to sponsor it, then you could call it the 'Short Circuit'.....

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Yeah, right. He's driven in F1 (albeit in single figures), owned an F1 team for some years and been in control of most of it for as long as most people our age can remember back to. So absolutely, he knows sod all.

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Silverstone is sponsored by Audi, who supply a great deal of the circuit vehicles and the driving school cars.

Bernie only knows how to fill his own pockets - he hasn't ever qualified for a race, he's been caught on camera jump starting races, and Brabbham was hardly a success when he was at the helm.

it is an utter disgrace to let a idiot like him be involved with the sport even if it's only washing the cars.

Ha! I Know more about how motorsport works than Bernie!

Only two WDCs - an unmitigated disaster <dunce>

No constructors titles though

Your argument has worn thin.

The fact remains - if he was interested in motorsport, or knew how it worked - F1 would not be running in the way it is at the moment.

all Bernie's business expoilts regarding F1 have been based on shady dealings, fraud, lying and cheating the eventual customer - viz the fans.

He's a businessman as well as an F1 enthuaist. He saw the opportunity to make a fortune out of F1 and he succeeded. Only thing I don't agree with that he does is taking F1 to places F1 should not be, and charging too much for non-government-backed circuits to be on the calendar.

Well, that sums you up nicely.

And the only person EVER to win in a car of his own design and construction. What a useless twonk, eh?

Erm, Sir Jack got three titles....

How exactly DOES one jump-start a race they didn't qualify for?

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<topic> Silverstone?

To set the record straight...

Brabham won it's constructors titles under the controll of Jack Brabham.

Ecclestone has never qualified for a F1 Race, but has been seen jump starting races in lower formulas

Ecclestone has never designed, or raced, his own cars.

If he knew about Business, and Motorsport, then he'd know better about not paying his suppliers, wouldn't he?

All his dealings are shady, contraversial, bent like a banana, and based on corruption, fraud, lies, and finally cheating the eventual customer - viz: the fans, and motorsport in General.

Not fit to wash the wheels.



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oh yes, and the redesign of silverstone has been done by Tilke. Which means it'll be bloody useless, bland, boring and terrible to race on.

Steady on Stig - no need for that kind of language <please>


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Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! <pc> <no>

Can they not learn from his mistakes? I suppose it will be good if he's desiging the off-track facilities as he has never disappointed with them. As long as they don't let him near the circuit

Too late, he's already put a ridiculously sharp chicane in, and a pointless de-tour into the infield, ruining the international and national circuits in the process.

http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/proj...s/fosters1.html

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Do have a pic of what he's come up with?

http://www.sportsvenue-technology.com/proj...s/fosters1.html

Just look at what he's done to Abbey! That used to be a nice flowing corner, instead it's a 90degree left into a banked right - the cars are not going to be going fast enough to use the banking properly.

It doesn't look that bad actually. It would mean Bridge is gone but that's a flat corner now anyway.

You mean a left into a right?

I reckon you're just in a strop because he is not happy with Silverstone. What he has done or not done in racing himself counts for nothing. Did Ron Dennis, Jean Todt, Frank Williams etc all win world championships and havew sparkling racing careers? Not to my knowledge. And I wouldn't label people idiots just because you have an interest in something we don't...that's not being foolish, it's called personal preference.

Stig, that page you linked says that the revisions should have been done for the 2004 race. Which highlights EXACTLY why Ecclestone is running out of patience with Silverstone.

So how will we tell the difference?

Well, at least the 'new' track won't look like an upsidedown pair of y-fronts....

But these revisions don't need doing - There is essentially nothing wrong with Silverstone as it is.

To deliverately destroy not only the current layout, all 4 of the Silverstone layouts in the name of one series, is downright daft and simply shows how much F1 cares about everyone else.

If there's nothing wrong, they wouldn't have made these proposals, would they...

If F1 isn't on a track with involvement from tilke, it's not happy. That's the oinly reason for these proposals.

if they don't like Silverstone, they can b****r off elsewhere or put up the money to change it.

There's no need to attack each other for differing opinions - a discussion forum is about discussion, not people bashing, whether that's each other or Ecclestone himself....

as you were....

I'm not keen on Silverstone as a venue, I think the facilities are poor and it's just so.....plain? The point is there are some circuits you get to and think "ooh" whereas Silverstone is just so depressing.

The Grand Prix circuit doesn't produce the best races for F1 and certainly not for other series - but other variations eg the National circuit can provide great racing for club level events.

They will b****r off if Silverstone don't want to do anything, but they do, so that shows that they value hosting an F1 race, and want to improve the track to ensure it meets the required standard. Ok to you does not mean ok to everyone.