F1 should not be subject to any special treatment. it's a single seater formula for drivers too thick to be able to handle anything else. Nothing more.

If Formula Ford has to pay, so should F1.

If F1 drivers are are so stupid, how come YOU aren't WDC?

Stop bloody moaning just because you don't like F1 or Bernie Ecclestone, the record has well and truly broken, the argument has worn thinner than the ozone layer over the antarctic, and frankly, you're starting to destroy and trace of credibility that you ever had.....
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As far as I am aware, there is no rule demanding that all series' have to pay to hire a track. F1 has slightly more worldwide importance than Formula Ford.

Why your quite deluded dislike of F1 drivers? What makes them any worse than rally drivers or Formula Ford drivers?

most Formula Ford drivers have to work for their entries, and are just beginning a long and hard slog through the ranks to reach the higher levels. not like some drivers who simply waltz in thanks to a rich daddy and a friend called Ron.

There is no rule, you are correct. but it is only fair play. Like I said before, why should one series get preferential treatment to the others.

Because I don't have a rich daddy or a friend called Ron. When I finally get enough money to compete, It will be in a series which rewards talent, rather than deep pockets.

Contary to popular belief, I don't hate F1. I just dislike the way it is run. Badly. Bernie has destroyed what was once the top level of motorsport and turned it into a tacky fairground attraction.

Because F1 is far more interesting than a load of stripped out Ford Fiestas, or FFord and BTCC etc, etc?

It's not preferential treatment! Circuits are not forced to pay! Did you get that? They are not forced to pay! It's like talking to a brick wall...

And again you refer to Hamilton. Yes that's right, he did f**k all for 10 years and got himself an F1 seat. That's right. B******s.

if you think that club racing is just a load of "Stripped out Ford Fiestas" you haven't been near a circuit for the last 20 years...

Sorry, they use Hondas too.....

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I didn't say that - But look at his carreer, he's always had the best team, or the best kit. IT's clear it's always been the car or the team doing the winning.

Yes, because cars can drive themselves. I'd say you are envious that drivers you like haven't had that support. Well, that's just tough luck.

Tough Luck? Hah! how many undiscovered talents are out there who never will be discovered because of the lack of proper financial backing? Thousands. Millions maybe. Hamilton's nothing special, he just got lucky.

A good driver can take any car in any formula to a win. Give Hamilton a car which isn't the best and he will be nowhere. Same as Shumi.

Give them both a sportscar to race with. that'll confuse them!!

I seem to remember Schumi being quite a successful sports car driver <dunce>

If there are millions of unfound talents, anyone who races is lucky, so that argument falls short again. He's beating a double champion (who again by your reckoning must be a retarded creature with 2 feet and 2 hands) in his first year of F1. If you think that is nothing special, with all due respect your screws must have fallen out long ago.

Give some of your heroes a F1 car, against a double champion, with no prior practice, they would not win. Whatever you want to believe.

Same team as Karl Wendlinger and HH Frentzen. Then, one autumn, Bertrand Gachot gets locked up for spraying CS gas at a London cabbie. Eddie Jordan pulls off a coup and hires a young unknown sportscar driver from Mercedes to fill in. Said driver has never driven at Spa. Said driver has never driven an F1 car on an F1 track. Said driver does his recon laps on a bicycle. Said driver puts the car 7th on the grid, which is the highest position of the season for the Jordan team. Said driver is Michael Schumacher.

Surely not. He had the best car for 5 years or so, so his achievements count for nothing. Remember? <doh>

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Yep, he raced in Sauber-Mercedes sportscars such as the C11.

You have to achieve something to get that support. Before the last race, did Alonso get a podium in every race, for example? He's a double WDC after all....

Luck has a lot to do with things. But it was Hamilton that approached Ron at that awards and made sure he made a big enough impression that Ron kept an eye on him and then offered to support his carrier.

There will always be more drivers that don't make it than those that do. That's life. If you want to make it you need more than just talent on the track. You need it off the track too.

Some say Michael will never be considered the best driver of all time as he never had competition from his team mate. Why was that? Because of his skill behind the scenes on top of his skills on the track. He managed to negotiate a deal where he was always the clear Number 1 driver in the team.

You also need a good share of luck. You have to be at the right place at the right time to get the right drive.

FFord is great. Due to the lack of wings they are a lot closer together and have more overtaking. On the old silverstone national circuit they used to go into woodcote 5 or 6 abreast and half of them would end up in the catch fencing.

We'll that's really skillful, huh?

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It wasnt about skill, it was about maths. 6 into a hard right hander doesnt go.

Sensible people would say that if 6 into 1 doesn't go, don't be one of the 6...

Or just avoid racing in FFord.

And it sounds like a lot of fun <thumbsup>

I have to say that I have always enjoyed watching FFord and FVee scraps (and sports cars), but F1 has always been the real reason for my interest in motor sport.

The skill in Formula Ford is avoiding getting into the catch fencing at all!!

Now there's a motorsport which needs some skill - Rallycross.

500BHP, no traction control, 4 wheel drive, and a mixed surface of tarmac and gravel...

Hmmm... only if it's a Metro 6r4.... :)

you can use a Metro 6R4 if you like...

Or how about a lotus Exige... in the lower - 2 wheel drive class.

I presume you've seen little of his racing then - cos that certainly ain't true.

Yep just like Vees - which is something the Silverstone National circuit is great at showing, the slipstreaming possibilities for both series.

That's a very narrow minded view - and not correct at all in my opinion - some of the guys, Kubica and Hamilton included, are very talented drivers.

Some don't, some do, you can't generalise. Obvious in some formulas but not in all - and you can still get it in Formula Ford too.

But you have to be able to drive too! Honestly, I doubt few people here could be winning in F1 right now even with Lewis' kit....

Yes, so do I.