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 MS WILL BE TRAMPLED ON BY LEWIS HAMILTON, The views of Eddie Jordan and Coulthard
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Posted: Feb 6 2010, 08:56 PM
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MICHAEL Schumacher will only fuel Lewis Hamilton’s ambition and leave the seven-times world champion, who has made a great career of avoiding fast team-mates, without a title this season.

That is the view of former Formula One team owner Eddie Jordan and ex-grand prix driver David Coulthard. They are united in delight at Schumacher, 41, making a comeback with Mercedes but the duo, now BBC pundits, believe he could have a tough year – and warn that world champion Jenson Button could pay for his bravery in switching to McLaren.

“Michael is an adrenaline junkie for F1,” said Jordan at the launch of the BBC’s Formula One team for 2010.

“Some can leave the sport, Michael cannot and that is why he is back. It is obviously not for the money, so it has to be because he thinks he can beat the best. But that could backfire on him.

“Michael’s comeback will only add to Hamilton’s aggression, and Sebastian Vettel’s.

“Lewis is hugely talented and has never raced Michael. Back comes this guy with the biggest reputation in F1. Hamilton will love it if he has the equipment and I think McLaren will be able to give him that this year.

“It will only add to his aggression to succeed. My money would be on Hamilton.

“McLaren had a terrible start last year, but were very strong at the end. I would be more concerned at Mercedes, Brawn as they were. They started very strongly but lost the momentum.”

Coulthard, who had many battles with Schumacher in his McLaren days, said: “Everyday life bores Michael.


Aggression will not win every GP, in fact it might lead to more mistakes by Lewis, that said he didn't say that, EJ and DC said it and they are always right
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Posted: Feb 6 2010, 09:48 PM
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Yes, but EJ is still bitter to this day that Flabio stole Schumacher from under his nose and took him to a couple of titles at Benetton!
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QUOTE (Steelstallions @ Feb 6 2010, 10:56 PM)
Aggression will not win every GP, in fact it might lead to more mistakes by Lewis.......

I think we have quite a number of young guns on track in 2010 that will not be intimidated or yielding to MS (just for showing off, stupidity, stubborness or not), so going to be interesting to see how many bumps and pile ups that will bring if the old man is not starting in front when the lights go out..
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Posted: Feb 7 2010, 05:11 AM
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Any driver that would have been or would be now intimidated by Shumi doesn't belong in F1. DC, JPM, JV, Kimi, Button, Webber and countless who weren't/aren't in Shumi league weren't intimidated, they just weren't as good.

And on Lewis (and Vettel as mentioned in the article), this won't add to the desire to succeed, it may add to the joy of success, but the top drivers in F1 are so driven to win they don't need the extra motivation.
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Posted: Feb 7 2010, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE (Rob @ Feb 7 2010, 05:11 AM)
Any driver that would have been or would be now intimidated by Shumi doesn't belong in F1. DC, JPM, JV, Kimi, Button, Webber and countless who weren't/aren't in Shumi league weren't intimidated, they just weren't as good.

And on Lewis (and Vettel as mentioned in the article), this won't add to the desire to succeed, it may add to the joy of success, but the top drivers in F1 are so driven to win they don't need the extra motivation.

Senna and Schumacher both used intimidatory tactics to cement their superiority over other drivers. Prost was, imo, intimidated by Senna as were many other drivers.

I think Damon was pretty clearly intimidated by MS. I have often thought that some of the more clumsy manoeuvres he made were the result of his being determined not to be intimidated by Michael. I remember seeing Kimi being bullied off the circuit when he was leading a race, admittedly while he was still quite young.

So I think it's wrong to say other drivers were not intimidated by him. It's how they handle that which determines whether or not they deserve a place in F1.

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Posted: Feb 7 2010, 07:19 PM
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Well I think that Michael is equally as fast as any driver on the grid. It will take him no time to get back up to speed.

In a head-to-head I doubt he will be at a disadvantage to any of the young guns including Lewis or Fernando. All this talk about Lewis and others being motivated by MS, perhaps the opposite is true. Maybe MS is motivated by them.

I keep writing this, but no one comments - oddly. MS lost the last two seasons because of the tyres. The Bridgstones were clearly so inferior to the Michelins, and yet he lost by only a little. On equal tyres he would be on 9.

It may well be true that Lewis and Fernando and even Massa (who I put ahead of Button) might be competitive, but none of them are nearly as complete as Michael. Certainly not proven to be that competitive and as complete to win 7 titles.

I sincerely doubt Michael will be trampled by anyone. If anything the opposite might just be the case.
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Posted: Feb 7 2010, 08:12 PM
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I am looking forward to a race where MS & Hamilton or Vettel are going head to head into a corner in a game of chicken...

I think Hamilton will be detemined to "put down a marker" against MS, even if it results in a colision..

& Alonso will want to do the same for Ferrari & not himself...

I think the 2010 season is going to be sensational...

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QUOTE (Hissing Sid @ Feb 7 2010, 10:12 PM)
I am looking forward to a race where MS & Hamilton or Vettel are going head to head into a corner in a game of chicken...

I think Hamilton will be detemined to "put down a marker" against MS, even if it results in a colision..

& Alonso will want to do the same for Ferrari & not himself...

I think the 2010 season is going to be sensational...

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And Schumacher will "?" as he thinks of Corinna and the two kids at home...
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Posted: Feb 8 2010, 03:28 AM
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QUOTE (Hissing Sid @ Feb 7 2010, 02:12 PM)
I am looking forward to a race where MS & Hamilton or Vettel are going head to head into a corner in a game of chicken...

I think Hamilton will be detemined to "put down a marker" against MS, even if it results in a colision..

& Alonso will want to do the same for Ferrari & not himself...

I think the 2010 season is going to be sensational...

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Alonso has already beaten Shumi, so I don't see where he has anything to prove. Lewis and Vettel maybe, but if they get to caught up in beating Shumi it could cost a title.
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Posted: Feb 8 2010, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Steelstallions @ Feb 6 2010, 08:56 PM)
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/156389...-Lewis-Hamilton

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MICHAEL Schumacher will only fuel Lewis Hamilton’s ambition and leave the seven-times world champion, who has made a great career of avoiding fast team-mates, without a title this season.

That is the view of former Formula One team owner Eddie Jordan and ex-grand prix driver David Coulthard. They are united in delight at Schumacher, 41, making a comeback with Mercedes but the duo, now BBC pundits, believe he could have a tough year – and warn that world champion Jenson Button could pay for his bravery in switching to McLaren.

“Michael is an adrenaline junkie for F1,” said Jordan at the launch of the BBC’s Formula One team for 2010.

“Some can leave the sport, Michael cannot and that is why he is back. It is obviously not for the money, so it has to be because he thinks he can beat the best. But that could backfire on him.

“Michael’s comeback will only add to Hamilton’s aggression, and Sebastian Vettel’s.

“Lewis is hugely talented and has never raced Michael. Back comes this guy with the biggest reputation in F1. Hamilton will love it if he has the equipment and I think McLaren will be able to give him that this year.

“It will only add to his aggression to succeed. My money would be on Hamilton.

“McLaren had a terrible start last year, but were very strong at the end. I would be more concerned at Mercedes, Brawn as they were. They started very strongly but lost the momentum.”

Coulthard, who had many battles with Schumacher in his McLaren days, said: “Everyday life bores Michael.


Aggression will not win every GP, in fact it might lead to more mistakes by Lewis, that said he didn't say that, EJ and DC said it and they are always right
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Just a thought, may be Lewis has learned something since he first joined F1. As much as he made mistakes in 2008, he showed great maturity during what was a hard year in 2009. I mean look at his performances later in the eyar when McLaren improved the car. OK, he did throw it in the wall at Monza but he had nothing to lose by pushing and going for it. At Abu Dabi he was the class of the field and was only hampered by failing brakes in the race.

EJ and DC's opinions, I don't expect Schumi to be "trampled on" (though that wasn't exactly what they said), but I don't expect Lewis to be intimidated. I also expect Vettel to be a major force. Schumi might be a good spoiler in the championship but I expect the real fight to be Hamilton/Vettel/Alonso
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Posted: Feb 8 2010, 11:32 AM
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I'm rapidly learning that predicting anything about Schumacher recently is unwise. After all, he would never even have thought about replacing Massa, never mind try. He'd never leave the Ferrari family. He'd never join Mercedes.

I honestly think that in all reality, this season is impossible to predict. We'd all assume that a few years on the sidelines, plus the march of time will have blunted Schumacher a little. The recent testing seems to suggest that he's not going to be a Badoer, however until we get to the first race day, we'll not really know exactly how he will fare over a race distance. We don't even know really how the cars stack up against one another yet. Ross Brawn seems to think that Ferrari and McLaren have the edge on Mercedes, but last year's off season produced testing times for some teams that didn't reflect the true abilities of the car.

I would very much like to see Ross Brawn prove that last year wasn't a fluke, and to see Schumacher prove that he's still got what it takes. If the Merc is good, maybe a title won't be out of the question, but that also depends on the fitness of the driver. Could his neck and lack of races in the last few years conspire against him over the course of the year?

There are just too many variables for my liking.
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Posted: Feb 8 2010, 11:43 AM
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I just like the prospect of 3 or 4 way championship battle again.
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QUOTE (Pasta @ Feb 7 2010, 07:19 PM)

I keep writing this, but no one comments - oddly.  MS lost the last two seasons because of the tyres.  The Bridgstones were clearly so inferior to the Michelins, and yet he lost by only a little. On equal tyres he would be on 9.

Ok, so to make you happy I'll comment oddly on it .

Michael Schumacher is a teapot, short and bicycle corset.

Seriously though ... I'll allow that Schumacher was badly hampered by his tyres for during Alonso's first title winning season but not his second.

Just look at the pace of the Ferrari in the season finale. No sir. Renault built a bloody good car and had a bloody good driver, their overall package was better than that of Schumacher and Ferrari that year.

And to be honest Renault's package was pretty damned fine the previous year, so you couldn't guarantee that Schumacher would have won anything that year either, although for sure he'd have been a lot closer.

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QUOTE (AndyW76 @ Feb 8 2010, 04:24 AM)
QUOTE (Steelstallions @ Feb 6 2010, 08:56 PM)
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/156389...-Lewis-Hamilton

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MICHAEL Schumacher will only fuel Lewis Hamilton’s ambition and leave the seven-times world champion, who has made a great career of avoiding fast team-mates, without a title this season.

That is the view of former Formula One team owner Eddie Jordan and ex-grand prix driver David Coulthard. They are united in delight at Schumacher, 41, making a comeback with Mercedes but the duo, now BBC pundits, believe he could have a tough year – and warn that world champion Jenson Button could pay for his bravery in switching to McLaren.

“Michael is an adrenaline junkie for F1,” said Jordan at the launch of the BBC’s Formula One team for 2010.

“Some can leave the sport, Michael cannot and that is why he is back. It is obviously not for the money, so it has to be because he thinks he can beat the best. But that could backfire on him.

“Michael’s comeback will only add to Hamilton’s aggression, and Sebastian Vettel’s.

“Lewis is hugely talented and has never raced Michael. Back comes this guy with the biggest reputation in F1. Hamilton will love it if he has the equipment and I think McLaren will be able to give him that this year.

“It will only add to his aggression to succeed. My money would be on Hamilton.

“McLaren had a terrible start last year, but were very strong at the end. I would be more concerned at Mercedes, Brawn as they were. They started very strongly but lost the momentum.”

Coulthard, who had many battles with Schumacher in his McLaren days, said: “Everyday life bores Michael.


Aggression will not win every GP, in fact it might lead to more mistakes by Lewis, that said he didn't say that, EJ and DC said it and they are always right
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Just a thought, may be Lewis has learned something since he first joined F1. As much as he made mistakes in 2008, he showed great maturity during what was a hard year in 2009. I mean look at his performances later in the eyar when McLaren improved the car. OK, he did throw it in the wall at Monza but he had nothing to lose by pushing and going for it. At Abu Dabi he was the class of the field and was only hampered by failing brakes in the race.

EJ and DC's opinions, I don't expect Schumi to be "trampled on" (though that wasn't exactly what they said), but I don't expect Lewis to be intimidated. I also expect Vettel to be a major force. Schumi might be a good spoiler in the championship but I expect the real fight to be Hamilton/Vettel/Alonso

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QUOTE (Rob @ Feb 8 2010, 03:30 PM)
QUOTE (AndyW76 @ Feb 8 2010, 04:24 AM)
QUOTE (Steelstallions @ Feb 6 2010, 08:56 PM)
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/156389...-Lewis-Hamilton

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MICHAEL Schumacher will only fuel Lewis Hamilton’s ambition and leave the seven-times world champion, who has made a great career of avoiding fast team-mates, without a title this season.

That is the view of former Formula One team owner Eddie Jordan and ex-grand prix driver David Coulthard. They are united in delight at Schumacher, 41, making a comeback with Mercedes but the duo, now BBC pundits, believe he could have a tough year – and warn that world champion Jenson Button could pay for his bravery in switching to McLaren.

“Michael is an adrenaline junkie for F1,” said Jordan at the launch of the BBC’s Formula One team for 2010.

“Some can leave the sport, Michael cannot and that is why he is back. It is obviously not for the money, so it has to be because he thinks he can beat the best. But that could backfire on him.

“Michael’s comeback will only add to Hamilton’s aggression, and Sebastian Vettel’s.

“Lewis is hugely talented and has never raced Michael. Back comes this guy with the biggest reputation in F1. Hamilton will love it if he has the equipment and I think McLaren will be able to give him that this year.

“It will only add to his aggression to succeed. My money would be on Hamilton.

“McLaren had a terrible start last year, but were very strong at the end. I would be more concerned at Mercedes, Brawn as they were. They started very strongly but lost the momentum.”

Coulthard, who had many battles with Schumacher in his McLaren days, said: “Everyday life bores Michael.


Aggression will not win every GP, in fact it might lead to more mistakes by Lewis, that said he didn't say that, EJ and DC said it and they are always right
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Just a thought, may be Lewis has learned something since he first joined F1. As much as he made mistakes in 2008, he showed great maturity during what was a hard year in 2009. I mean look at his performances later in the eyar when McLaren improved the car. OK, he did throw it in the wall at Monza but he had nothing to lose by pushing and going for it. At Abu Dabi he was the class of the field and was only hampered by failing brakes in the race.

EJ and DC's opinions, I don't expect Schumi to be "trampled on" (though that wasn't exactly what they said), but I don't expect Lewis to be intimidated. I also expect Vettel to be a major force. Schumi might be a good spoiler in the championship but I expect the real fight to be Hamilton/Vettel/Alonso

No love for Massa? cry.gif

I think Massa will be fast but he is up against Alonso and I do think Fred will have the edge over him.
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